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William Tell |
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February 17, 2013 11:49:51am |
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I am of the mind that all available info supports my thesis from which I never waiver: he was a grt writer, and productive, though hated it, during the early era, but then, declined, post-75 or so, precisely as predicted.
Right?
And, corollary: Bob wasnt much help at any time...
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Diamondhead |
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February 17, 2013 04:25:30pm |
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I think your thesis passed with the necessary votes. But it just occurred to me; wasn't Jerry a great composer rather than a great writer?
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William Tell |
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February 17, 2013 05:12:38pm |
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Yup...sloppy verbiage...rose may get mad.
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Diamondhead |
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February 17, 2013 05:34:51pm |
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Wasn't picking. Everyone said it including me. Unless the connotation of writer has changed and it just means everything related to a song. I grew up thinking every song credit had an 'and' in it. Like Rodgers and Hammerstein or something. :)
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AltheaRose |
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February 17, 2013 06:25:52pm |
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Including Garcia.
I think Phil was the only one who might say (or wish he could say) Composer for songs. But luckily we have Wikipedia to sort these things out. And I quote:
>Not to be confused with lyricist.
>Not to be confused with composer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SongwriterIf you go to the "composer" link, the scholars of Wikipedia elaborate:
>In popular and folk music, the composer is usually called a songwriter, since the music generally takes the form of a song.
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Diamondhead |
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February 17, 2013 09:28:10pm |
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And I don't quite accept that, Wikipedia notwithstanding. I would call it the Bob Dylan effect. When I was growing up it was sort of accepted that, in most most cases, somebody wrote the words, somebody wrote the music, and somebody else sang the dang song. After Bob Dylan, you weren't worth shit unless you composed your own stuff and bared your soul or commented on the world. And the onslaught began - James Taylor, Joni Mitchell, Jackson Browne, Paul Simon, Carole King (actually she a bridge to the prior era - Goffin and King) etc. and forever the game changed. The era of the songwriter. God knows I bowed at their feet and saw everyone and loved it. But Jerry wrote the music and Hunter wrote the words. So in my mind, Jerry was not a songwriter, he was a composer of many memorable melodies and Hunter was the lyricist.
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